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		<updated>2024-11-24T21:51:43+00:00</updated>

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<p>Kona EV should now be onboarded! I've sent some final confirmation steps to all testers and will update the support matrix in <a href="https://sidecar.clutch.engineering/supported-cars/#Hyundai-Kona%20Electric%20%281st%20gen%29" class="postlink">https://sidecar.clutch.engineering/supp ... 1st%20gen)</a> once I get confirmation of support for the remaining parameters.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:51 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-19T04:46:24+00:00</updated>

		<published>2024-11-19T04:46:24+00:00</published>
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<p>We've confirmed TPMS on the 2022 model <img alt="🎉" class="emoji smilies" draggable="false" src="//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f389.svg"> I've now added a tentative speed parameter in <code>SHA: d122cec</code>. <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;un=Kona electric owners" class="mention">@Kona electric owners</a>: if you can please take another test drive with Sidecar and the updated parameters that will help me tune the speed parameter and confirm that TPMS is working for the other model years <img class="smilies" src="https://meta.cars.forum/images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":)" title="Smile"></p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:46 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-18T23:36:39+00:00</updated>

		<published>2024-11-18T23:36:39+00:00</published>
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<p><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;un=Kona electric owners" class="mention">@Kona electric owners</a> Y'all have a vehicle symbol now <img class="smilies" src="https://meta.cars.forum/images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":D" title="Very Happy"></p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:36 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-18T23:12:23+00:00</updated>

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<p>Vehicle symbol inbound!</p><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://meta.cars.forum/download/file.php?id=331" class="postimage" alt="Screenshot 2024-11-18 at 3.12.02 PM.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:12 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-18T21:13:05+00:00</updated>

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<p>Thank you <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;un=UnnDunn" class="mention">@UnnDunn</a>! I think we've identified and soon confirmed TPMS values for the Kona EV, and with ODO working I think we're ready to draw up the symbol for the car now and call this one onboarded <img class="smilies" src="https://meta.cars.forum/images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":D" title="Very Happy"></p><p>I'm also going to work on exploring some alternative fingerprinting techniques to identify the Kona EV during the handshake, as it seems like we're not going to be able to pull the vehicle's VIN appropriately. Unfortunately this does mean that we'll always need to implement some amount of fallback behavior on the car, and it won't be possible to distinguish between any two Kona EVs in the same garage, but this is the limitation we're working with until we find a way to get a unique identifier from the vehicle.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:13 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-18T06:03:56+00:00</updated>

		<published>2024-11-18T06:03:56+00:00</published>
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<p>Looks like we're not going to get much luck with pulling the VIN from the Kona Electric. Seems the commaai folks also ran into similar problems (<a href="https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/issues/23519" class="postlink">https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/issues/23519</a>), so I'm going to stop the hunt for the Kona VIN for now.</p><p>Let's see if we can get TPMS working and maybe some alternative ways to identify the vehicle.</p><h2 class="markdown" id="ecu-fingerprinting">ECU fingerprinting</h2><p>First run the following in a new Terminal session:</p><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>0904090AATSH7E40904090AATSH7A00904090A</code></pre></div><h2 class="markdown" id="alternative-tpms-reading">Alternative TPMS reading</h2><p>Then run the following in another new Terminal session:</p><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>ATSH7A0ATFCSH7A0ATFCSD300000ATFCSM122C00B</code></pre></div><p>Please try running the following in a Terminal and then sharing the OBD logs again!</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:03 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-15T02:12:05+00:00</updated>

		<published>2024-11-15T02:12:05+00:00</published>
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<blockquote class="uncited"><div><p>@Kona electric owners I'd like to try one more approach to pulling the VIN from the car. If anyone with a Kona Electric can run the following and then share their logs with me again that would be helpful!</p><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>22F190ATSH7E122F190ATSH7E222F190ATSH7E322F190ATSH7E422F190ATSH7E522F190ATSH7E622F190ATSH7E722F190ATSH7E822F190</code></pre></div></div></blockquote><p>Sent logs</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=286">patmondal</a> — Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:12 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-14T16:48:45+00:00</updated>

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<p><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;un=Kona electric owners" class="mention">@Kona electric owners</a> I'd like to try one more approach to pulling the VIN from the car. If anyone with a Kona Electric can run the following and then share their logs with me again that would be helpful!</p><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>22F190ATSH7E122F190ATSH7E222F190ATSH7E322F190ATSH7E422F190ATSH7E522F190ATSH7E622F190ATSH7E722F190ATSH7E822F190</code></pre></div><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:48 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-07T18:49:28+00:00</updated>

		<published>2024-11-07T18:49:28+00:00</published>
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<p>[/quote]</p><p>Navigation is not implemented in Sidecar yet. Aiming to build it before the end of the year — it's going to take a month or two of engineering + testing to get it right for an MVP.<br>[/quote]</p><p>Ah that makes sense. I currently use ABRP &amp; the car built in navigation.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=286">patmondal</a> — Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:49 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-07T18:42:37+00:00</updated>

		<published>2024-11-07T18:42:37+00:00</published>
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<blockquote class="uncited"><div><p>On the journey tab, it doesn’t let me navigate to any location. I only have an option to save, but it will not work since this is not supported by the car.<br>Am I missing anything?</p></div></blockquote><p>Navigation is not implemented in Sidecar yet. Aiming to build it before the end of the year — it's going to take a month or two of engineering + testing to get it right for an MVP.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:42 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-07T18:41:33+00:00</updated>

		<published>2024-11-07T18:41:33+00:00</published>
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<p>On the journey tab, it doesn’t let me navigate to any location. I only have an option to save, but it will not work since this is not supported by the car.<br>Am I missing anything?</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=286">patmondal</a> — Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:41 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-07T18:23:12+00:00</updated>

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<p>Sent logs with the VIN override and after running the Terminal command</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=286">patmondal</a> — Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:23 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-06T21:35:20+00:00</updated>

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<p>I ran all of those commands and sent the logs via email. The only commands to return any data were for ATSH7E4 and ATSH7DF.</p><p>I’ve also attached a screenshot of the Connectables I am seeing.</p> <p>Thanks!</p><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://meta.cars.forum/download/file.php?id=302" class="postimage" alt="Connectables I am seeing" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=239">UnnDunn</a> — Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:35 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-05T04:24:49+00:00</updated>

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<p>No luck with that VIN attempt. Let's try a bit more of a brute-force approach then:</p><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>ATSH7E00902ATSH7E10902ATSH7E20902ATSH7E30902ATSH7E40902ATSH7E50902ATSH7E70902ATSH7E80902ATSH7DF0902</code></pre></div><p>Please run the above and then email the OBD logs again to <a href="mailto:support@clutch.engineering">support@clutch.engineering</a>.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:24 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-11-04T06:20:38+00:00</updated>

		<published>2024-11-04T06:20:38+00:00</published>
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<p>I sent an export of the logs after performing the VIN override, sending the terminal commands and browsing the Connectables. Hope it’s helpful.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=239">UnnDunn</a> — Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:20 am</p><hr />
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