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		<updated>2024-10-31T13:34:41+00:00</updated>

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<p><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;un=Tombmwi3" class="mention">@Tombmwi3</a> let's start a separate thread for the i3S once you're able to test with it!</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:34 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-27T08:19:00+00:00</updated>

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<p>I do have access to an i3S I’ll get some logs.</p><p>Also this should theoretically work with the mini electric as it uses i3 components.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=141">Tombmwi3</a> — Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:19 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-27T06:08:50+00:00</updated>

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<p>Whooo! i3 is officially onboarded <img class="smilies" src="https://meta.cars.forum/images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":D" title="Very Happy"> We can still use additional testing on other model years but I'll be graduating this car out to the onboarded vehicles forum now <img class="smilies" src="https://meta.cars.forum/images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":)" title="Smile"></p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:08 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-27T05:50:37+00:00</updated>

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<p>Vehicle symbol <img class="smilies" src="https://meta.cars.forum/images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":)" title="Smile"></p><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://meta.cars.forum/download/file.php?id=265" class="postimage" alt="Screenshot 2024-10-26 at 10.50.21 PM.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:50 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-26T23:21:53+00:00</updated>

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<p><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;un=Tombmwi3" class="mention">@Tombmwi3</a> do you have access to an i3S too?</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:21 pm</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-26T09:38:16+00:00</updated>

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<p>This is great! I’ve sent over my logs.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=141">Tombmwi3</a> — Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:38 am</p><hr />
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		<author><name><![CDATA[jeff]]></name></author>
		<updated>2024-10-26T07:07:06+00:00</updated>

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<p>I've gotten a bunch of potential parameters wired up for the i3 in the v1.19.1 TestFlight build:</p><ul class="markdown"><li>Odometer</li><li>Speed</li><li>Range</li><li>SoC</li><li>SoH</li></ul><p>Full specs: <a href="https://github.com/OBDb/BMW-i3/blob/main/signalsets/v3/default.json" class="postlink">https://github.com/OBDb/BMW-i3/blob/mai ... fault.json</a></p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:07 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-26T04:52:49+00:00</updated>

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<p>First few steps in place for handling extended addressing!</p><p>First up, the Command JSON specification has been updated to include support for specifying <code>eax</code> (extended address) values for commands: <a href="https://sidecar.clutch.engineering/scanning/extended-pids/#command" class="postlink">https://sidecar.clutch.engineering/scan ... s/#command</a>. This will allow us to more accurately target specific ECUs for specific commands. There's an open question here of whether we need this extended addressing for the service 01 commands though, so <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;un=Tombmwi3" class="mention">@Tombmwi3</a> if I can get you to do one more test run in your Terminal this would be super helpful:</p><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>ATCEA0701000902010DATFCSH7DFATFCSD07300800ATFCSM101000902010DATFCSH7DFATFCSD07300000ATFCSM101000902010D</code></pre></div><p>Second up, I've updated the CAN frame scanner logic to handle extended addressing modes, and this functionality will go out in the next release of the CANDecoder app:</p><div class="inline-attachment"><dl class="file"><dt class="attach-image"><img src="https://meta.cars.forum/download/file.php?id=258" class="postimage" alt="Screenshot 2024-10-25 at 9.52.05 PM.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt></dl></div><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:52 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-25T07:50:37+00:00</updated>

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<p>Thanks Jeff! Let me<br>Know if you need anything! Sleep well! <img alt="🤣" class="emoji smilies" draggable="false" src="//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f923.svg"></p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=141">Tombmwi3</a> — Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:50 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-25T07:27:04+00:00</updated>

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<p>So the ELM327 documentation includes the following note about using ATCEAhh:</p><blockquote class="uncited"><div><p>Sending the CEA hh command causes the ELM327 to insert the hh value as the first data byte of all CAN messages that you send. It also adds one more filtering step to received messages, only passing ones that have the Tester Address in the first byte position (in addition to requiring that ID bits match the patterns set by <code>ATCF</code> and <code>ATCM</code>, or <code>ATCRA</code>). The <code>ATCEAhh</code> command can be sent at any time, and changes are effective immediately, allowing for changes of the address ‘on-the-fly’.</p></div></blockquote><p>I wonder then if "only passing ones that have the Tester Address in the first byte position" is referring to the F1 we're seeing here in byte one after the header <img alt="🤔" class="emoji smilies" draggable="false" src="//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f914.svg">. If so, I'll definitely need to make some adjustments to the Sidecar scanner <img class="smilies" src="https://meta.cars.forum/images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":)" title="Smile"> Estimating probably about an hour of work to get it implemented so I'm gonna sleep now and take a stab at it tomorrow!</p><p>Thanks for the quick responses on the logs!</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:27 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-25T07:23:55+00:00</updated>

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<p>As expected I can't reproduce on the Juke because it doesn't respond to the extended addressing changes. Going to do some research to make sure I understand what's going on here and then may need to make some adjustments to the OBDb scanning specification to allow extended addressing.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:23 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-25T07:18:07+00:00</updated>

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<p>Nah nothing to do with that; I think it's to do with the configuration we're using and is probably working as expected, I just don't fully understand why it's behaving this way. I'll see if I can reproduce this on my Juke.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:18 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-25T07:17:25+00:00</updated>

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<p><img alt="😵‍💫" class="emoji smilies" draggable="false" src="//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f635-200d-1f4ab.svg"> would it be related to doing it while moving?<br>I’ll try it again when I’ve stopped.</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=141">Tombmwi3</a> — Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:17 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-25T07:13:06+00:00</updated>

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<p>Oh! So there's maybe something else going on here. The response we got is:</p><div class="codebox"><p>Code: </p><pre><code>607 F1 03 7F2278607 F1 05 62 DD68 99BE</code></pre></div><p>The F1 after the header is unexpected, and is usually associated with the tester identifier. Trying to find in the ELM327 / CAN specification where and why those two bytes would be getting inserted into the sequence <img alt="🤔" class="emoji smilies" draggable="false" src="//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f914.svg"></p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">jeff</a> — Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:13 am</p><hr />
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		<updated>2024-10-25T07:11:56+00:00</updated>

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<p>Sent more logs over!</p><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="https://meta.cars.forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=141">Tombmwi3</a> — Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:11 am</p><hr />
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